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I'm interested in what you think is the crucial mistake. Personally, I feel like you say, they have uncovered let's say the necessary beginning of spiritual enlightenment--for sake of spacel let's use the term of witness consciousness in the sense of self beyond the cogito ergo sum who's self is based upon and anchored in the ego's thinking itself. This is found also in Eastern Orthodoxy with the understanding of watchfullness or nepsis, wherein, one comes to see each thought and especially any impulse attached to these thoughts as the beginning of the passions or habitual, spiritually damaging activities. Thus, one steps back in a sense from thought as a necessary and essential hypostasized state and is allowed from their to encounter that which is beyond thought and beyond being--whether seen as Gregory of Nanzianzus does as to the soul as the soul is to the body (God) or as Maximus the Confessor does as an erotic and ecstatic overflowing of that beyond being into being to fill beings and become incarnate in all things as much as they co-operate and themselves participate in this love and ecstatically rise above any created mode of existence to encounter the Ground of all being who is as the sun is to the stars, overwhelming each single light with its radiance.

If that makes sense, for me personally, what to me becomes essential (and this is where I might want to argue for a sort of qualified non-dualism here) is to allow for some commerce between atman and Brahman or a distinction in numerical identity as Maximus preserves in his work even while each of us is to become God. The reason for this is not dialectical as much as simply practical, in that if I am to retain a) the goodness of matter or creation b) the possibility of redemption of our current state of affairs as being because of something outside of God and c) most importantly, the ability to differentiate between fullness and emptiness, I must be able to in a sense retain two hypostasis or natures or really numerical distinctions at bottom, allowing for maya to not simply be delusion, but the delusional state of what can is inherently Good, and for me to be able to see the plenitude of Being not being sourced out by me or simply the absence of things--in which case--I think it's arguable one could become encased within a pscychological individuality which is closed off from all else (even if I am starting with similar presuppositions.

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This might also be relevant to the discussion: https://archive.org/details/TheIsvaraPratyabhinaKarikaOfUtpaladevaB.N.Pandit/mode/1up

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